discord destroyed irc, reddit and twitter destroyed phpbb forums, facebook destroyed blogs. all are investing in cryprocurrency flimflam. you think it's because they want to build a decentralized web controlled by the people? they're the fuckers who DISMANTLED the one we HAD

2:57 AM · Nov 9, 2021

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i can't believe the part people are most focusing on here is the precise time of death of IRC
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"actually, AIM killed IRC" they do not do the same thing "actually, Slack killed IRC" it is news to me that anyone uses slack outside of work "what is IRC" ⚰️
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look i know there are REASONS that the centralized things took off. i mean i'm right here using one of them. obviously people choose what to use. (though network effects are very powerful and that's part of the problem — how many people use facebook but wish they didn't?)
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but the features we expect from an online comm gizmo have grown exponentially. y'all want to focus on IRC so okay let's do that you can't just slap together a gtk client and call it a day; you need clients for win, mac, linux, ios, android, and web, all with feature parity
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folks want that "always online" experience, so you need to store logs server-side now. folks want rich media, so you need to store big binary files server-side now. suddenly much bigger resources required to run a thing.
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one of the weaknesses of IRC was its whole auth story, which was kind of... ad-hoc. but that was also a strength; you could poke around a new network without needing the commitment of registering an account
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like there are good reasons that discord ate irc's lunch. but all of them really boil down to: discord had HALF A BILLION DOLLARS TO SPEND ON ALL THIS, and irc was hobbyists
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i am not blaming discord for going out of their way to kill irc. i am saying that the money flows to centralized things because centralized things make money, so when those same things take interest in cryptocurrency, they do not have a decentralized internet in mind
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if any of these companies cared about a decentralized internet, they could've made even the slightest effort to build one at literally any time. instead twitter keeps shrinking its API, discord bans for self-botting, facebook doesn't even like you using adblock
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all i was saying was: if you see massive platforms buying into cryptocurrency and you believe that it's because they want a user-powered web 3 wonderland where their own hegemony has been dismantled... you are the mark
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when bitcoin first arrived as a currency controlled by individuals and with much lower barriers to entry, no one with power or influence cared. but the more it looks like an unregulated investment vehicle, the more the rich and powerful take interest. what a strange coincidence
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